Life in the fishbowl

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In the future, most people will live in a total surveillance state – and some of us might even like it

Stuart Armstrong is a research fellow at the Future of Humanity Institute in Oxford, where he works on decision theory and the risks of AI.

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Suppose you’re walking home one night, alone, and you decide to take a shortcut through a dark alley. You make it halfway through, when suddenly you hear some drunks stumbling behind you. Some of them are shouting curses. They look large and powerful, and there are several of them. Nonetheless, you feel safe, because you know someone is watching.

You know this because you live in the future where surveillance is universal, ubiquitous and unavoidable. Governments and large corporations have spread cameras, microphones and other tracking devices all across the globe, and they also have the capacity to store and process oceans of surveillance data in real time. Big Brother not only watches your sex life, he analyses it. It sounds nightmarish — but it might be inevitable. So far, attempts to control surveillance have generally failed. We could be headed straight for the panopticon, and if recent news developments are any indication, it might not take that long to get there.

Maybe we should start preparing. And not just by wringing our hands or mounting attempts to defeat surveillance. For if there’s a chance that the panopticon is inevitable, we ought to do some hard thinking about its positive aspects. Cataloguing the downsides of mass surveillance is important, essential even. But we have a whole literature devoted to that. Instead, let’s explore its potential benefits.

The first, and most obvious, advantage of mass surveillance is a drastic reduction in crime. Indeed, this is the advantage most often put forward by surveillance proponents today. The evidence as to whether current surveillance achieves this is ambiguous; cameras, for instance, seem to have an effect on property crime, but not on incidences of violence. But today’s world is very different from a panopticon full of automatically analysed surveillance devices that leave few zones of darkness.

If calibrated properly, total surveillance might eradicate certain types of crime almost entirely. People respond well to inevitable consequences, especially those that follow swiftly on the heels of their conduct. Few would commit easily monitored crimes such as assault or breaking and entering, if it meant being handcuffed within minutes. This kind of ultra-efficient police capability would require not only sensors capable of recording crimes, but also advanced computer vision and recognition algorithms capable of detecting crimes quickly. There has been some recent progress on such algorithms, with further improvements expected. In theory, they would be able to alert the police in real time, while the crime was still ongoing. Prompt police responses would create near-perfect deterrence, and violent crime would be reduced to a few remaining incidents of overwhelming passion or extreme irrationality.

If surveillance recordings were stored for later analysis, other types of crimes could be eradicated as well, because perpetrators would fear later discovery and punishment. We could expect crimes such as low-level corruption to vanish, because bribes would become perilous (to demand or receive) for those who are constantly under watch. We would likely see a similar reduction in police brutality. There might be an initial spike in detected cases of police brutality under a total surveillance regime, as incidents that would previously have gone unnoticed came to light, but then, after a short while, the numbers would tumble. Ubiquitous video recording, mobile and otherwise, has already begun to expose such incidents.

On a smaller scale, mass surveillance would combat all kinds of abuses that currently go unreported because the abuser has power over the abused. You see this dynamic in a variety of scenarios, from the dramatic (child abuse) to the more mundane (line managers insisting on illegal, unpaid overtime). Even if the victim is too scared to report the crime, the simple fact that the recordings existed would go a long way towards equalising existing power differentials. There would be the constant risk of some auditor or analyst stumbling on the recording, and once the abused was out of the abuser’s control (grown up, in another job) they could retaliate and complain, proof in hand. The possibility of deferred vengeance would make abuse much less likely to occur in the first place.

With reduced crime, we could also expect a significant reduction in police work and, by extension, police numbers. Beyond a rapid-reaction force tasked with responding to rare crimes of passion, there would be no need to keep a large police force on hand. And there would also be no need for them to enjoy the special rights they do today. Police officers can, on mere suspicion, detain you, search your person, interrogate you, and sometimes enter your home. They can also arrest you on suspicion of vague ‘crimes’ such as ‘loitering with intent’. Our present police force is given these powers because it needs to be able to investigate. Police officers can’t be expected to know who committed what crime, and when, so they need extra powers to be able to figure this out, and still more special powers to protect themselves while they do so. But in a total-surveillance world, there would be no need for humans to have such extensive powers of investigation. For most crimes, guilt or innocence would be obvious and easy to establish from the recordings. The police’s role could be reduced to arresting specific individuals, who have violated specific laws.

If all goes well, there might be fewer laws for the police to enforce. Most countries currently have an excess of laws, criminalising all sorts of behaviour. This is only tolerated because of selective enforcement; the laws are enforced very rarely, or only against marginalised groups. But if everyone was suddenly subject to enforcement, there would have to be a mass legal repeal. When spliffs on private yachts are punished as severely as spliffs in the ghetto, you can expect the marijuana legalisation movement to gather steam. When it becomes glaringly obvious that most people simply can’t follow all the rules they’re supposed to, these rules will have to be reformed. In the end, there is a chance that mass surveillance could result in more personal freedom, not less.

The military is another arm of state power that is ripe for a surveillance-inspired shrinking. If cross-border surveillance becomes ubiquitous and effective, we could see a reduction in the $1.7 trillion that the world spends on the military each year. Previous attempts to reduce armaments have ultimately been stymied by a lack of reliable verification. Countries can never trust that their enemies aren’t cheating, and that encourages them to cheat themselves. Arms races are also made worse by a psychological phenomenon, whereby each side interprets the actions of the other as a dangerous provocation, while interpreting its own as purely defensive or reactive. With cross-border mass surveillance, countries could check that others are abiding by the rules, and that they weren’t covertly preparing for an attack. If intelligence agencies were to use all the new data to become more sophisticated observers, countries might develop a better understanding of each other. Not in the hand-holding, peace-and-love sense, but in knowing what is a genuine threat and what is bluster or posturing. Freed from fear of surprising new weapons, and surprise attacks, countries could safely shrink their militaries. And with reduced armies, we should be able to expect reduced warfare, continuing the historical trend in conflict reduction since the end of the Second World War.

Of course, these considerations pale when compared with the potential for mass surveillance to help prevent global catastrophic risks, and other huge disasters. Pandemics, to name just one example, are among the deadliest dangers facing the human race. The Black Death killed a third of Europe’s population in the 14th century and, in the early 20th century, the Spanish Flu killed off between 50 and 100 million people. In addition, smallpox buried more people than the two world wars combined. There is no reason to think that great pandemics are a thing of the past, and in fact there are reasons to think that another plague could be due soon. There is also the possibility that a pandemic could arise from synthetic biology, the human manipulation of microbes to perform specific tasks. Experts are divided as to the risks involved in this new technology, but they could be tremendous, especially if someone were to release, accidentally or malevolently, infectious agents deliberately engineered for high transmissibility and deadliness.

You can imagine how many lives would have been saved had AIDS been sniffed out by epidemiologists more swiftly

Mass surveillance could help greatly here, by catching lethal pandemics in their earliest stages, or beforehand, if we were to see one being created artificially. It could also expose lax safety standards or dangerous practices in legitimate organisations. Surveillance could allow for quicker quarantines, and more effective treatment of pandemics. Medicines and doctors could be rushed to exactly the right places, and micro-quarantines could be instituted. More dramatic measures, such as airport closures, are hard to implement on a large scale, but these quick-response tactics could be implemented narrowly and selectively. Most importantly, those infected could be rapidly informed of their condition, allowing them to seek prompt treatment.

With proper procedures and perfect surveillance, we could avoid pandemics altogether. Infections would be quickly isolated and eliminated, and eradication campaigns would be shockingly efficient. Tracking the movements and actions of those who fell ill would make it much easier to research the causes and pathology of diseases. You can imagine how many lives would have been saved had AIDS been sniffed out by epidemiologists more swiftly.

Likewise, mass surveillance could prevent the terrorist use of nukes, dirty bombs, or other futuristic weapons. Instead of blanket bans in dangerous research areas, we could allow research to proceed and use surveillance to catch bad actors and bad practices. We might even see an increase in academic freedom.

Surveillance could also be useful in smaller, more conventional disasters. Knowing where everyone in a city was at the moment an earthquake struck would make rescue services much more effective, and the more cameras around when hurricanes hit, the better. Over time, all of this footage would increase our understanding of disasters, and help us to mitigate their effects.

Indeed, there are whole new bodies of research that could emerge from the data provided by mass surveillance. Instead of formulating theories and laboriously recruiting a biased and sometimes unwilling group for testing, social scientists, economists and epidemiologists could use surveillance data to test their ideas. And they could do it from home, immediately, and have access to the world’s entire population. Many theories could be rapidly confirmed or discarded, with great benefit to society. The panopticon would be a research nirvana.

Lying and hypocrisy would become practically impossible, and one could no longer project a false image of oneself

Mass surveillance could also make our lives more convenient, by eliminating the need for passwords. The surveillance system itself could be used for identification, provided the algorithms were sufficiently effective. Instead of Mr John Smith typing in ‘passw0rd!!!’ to access his computer or ‘2345’ to access his money, the system could simply track where he was at all times, and grant him access to any computers and money he had the right to. Long security lines at airports could also be eliminated. If surveillance can detect prohibited items, then searches are a waste of time. Effective crime detection and deterrence would mean that people would have little reason to lock their cars or their doors.

Doing business in a mass surveillance society would be smoother, too. Outdoor festivals and concerts would no longer need high fences, security patrols, and intimidating warnings. They could simply replace them with clear signs along the boundary of the event, as anyone attending would be identified and billed directly. People could dash into a shop, grab what they needed, and run out, without having to wait in line or check out. The camera system would have already billed them. Drivers who crashed into parked cars would no longer need to leave a note. They’d be tracked anyway, and insurance companies would have already settled the matter by the time they returned home. Everyday human interactions would be changed in far-reaching ways. Lying and hypocrisy would become practically impossible, and one could no longer project a false image of oneself. In the realm of personal identity, there would be less place for imagination or reinvention, and more place for honesty.

Today’s intricate copyright laws could be simplified, and there would be no need for the infantilising mess of reduced functionality that is ‘Digital Rights Management’. Surveillance would render DRM completely unnecessary, meaning that anyone who purchased a song could play it anytime, on any machine, while copying it and reusing it to their heart’s content. There would be no point in restricting these uses, because the behaviour that copyrights holders object to — passing the music on to others — would be detected and tagged separately. Every time you bought a song, a book, or even a movie, you’d do so knowing that it would be with you wherever you went for the rest of your life.

The virtues and vices of surveillance are the imagined virtues and vices of small villages, which tend to be safe and neighbourly, but prejudiced and judgemental. With the whole world as the village, we can hope that the multiplicity of cultures and lifestyles would reduce a global surveillance culture’s built-in potential for prejudice and judgment. With people more trusting, and less fearful, of each other, we could become more willing to help out, more willing to take part in common projects, more pro-social and more considerate. Yes, these potential benefits aren’t the whole story on mass surveillance, and I would never argue that they outweigh the potential downsides. But if we’re headed into a future panopticon, we’d better brush up on the possible upsides. Because governments might not bestow these benefits willingly — we will have to make sure to demand them.

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Comments

  • Gyrus

    I love the phrase halfway through, "If all goes well..." ROTFL.

  • someone

    I love the example at the start... like everyone (like drunks) would be deterred by it. It doesn't deter anything. It might make more crimes solvable afterwards but deterrence simply doesn't work as well as promised by the voyeurs.

    • Stuart Armstrong

      Streetlights dramatically cut the crime rates when they were installed. People rarely get mugged in very public places, as compared with back alleys. Deterrence can be surprisingly effective in many situations (consistent small deterrence is much more effective that punitive deterrence, of course). Drunks can control their behaviour - see the decline in drunk driving, for instance, even with the minute deterrence we have now.

      • Gyrus

        The main public place people get mugged in now is the high-street bank.

  • http://chrisdnettles.wordpress.com/ Christopher Nettles

    No matter how you sugarcoat total surveillance, it is dystopian.

    • Caleb

      Indeed. One has to ask what the downside of perfect law enforcement would be. Mr. Armstrong talks about how perfect enforcement could help the marijuana legalization movement since it would effect the rich as much as the poor in a panopticon (which is rather naive to begin with) but ignores the question of what the world would be like if e.g. perfect enforcement of sodomy laws had been possible in the fifties. The gay rights movement would almost certainly never have gotten off the ground since anyone who was gay would be in prison. Same thing with marijuana, if everyone who had ever tried it spent time in prison a legalization movement would never happen (not least since we don't let felons vote.)

  • someone else

    "Instead of Mr John Smith typing in ‘passw0rd!!!’ to access his computer or ‘2345’ to access his money, the system could simply track where he was at all times, and grant him access to any computers and money he had the right to."

    How would this work for identical twins?

  • freedom

    if you eliminate the OPTION for a society's peoples to do any wrong, you have also eliminated their FREEDOM. people should have free will to choose. the ability to choose CRIME (and be punished for it if caught) is one of the necessary evils to true FREEDOM. give me FREEDOM of give me death. surveillance will only serve to eliminate further FREEDOM from society.

  • Lester

    Just as the most extreme cult always presents itself as neutral, here we have the lunacy of narrow hegemonic authoritarianism dressed up as freedom and peace!

    If its crime you're worried about can't we just put CCTV in boardrooms and catch the real criminals in action? Simple really.

    • Gyrus

      To be fair, I think "total surveillance" including boardrooms, police stations, etc. was part of the author's argument. Complete rubbish of course - as if the rich and powerful won't circumvent any attempt to monitor them.

      • Lester

        You're right of course Gyrus, I love the way tax havens will be suddenly puffed off the planet in the lightest cleansing surveillance breezes :)

        How powerfully normalised all this cultist thinkings becomes. We mustn't for a moment imagine that "dark alleys" could be made safer by a fair redistribution of wealth and opportunity. We have to accept danger and violence as part of human interaction and deal with from there!

        • Gyrus

          Agreed. We seem to be willing to do anything but confront inequality. Even to make "well it's inevitable anyway" arguments such as this, like saying death is inevitable, so let's all jump off a bridge.

          • Lester

            Luckily there will be cameras on all bridges dissuading such behaviour ;)

            Interesting too that total surveillance reflects an atomised non-community mentality that considers citizens as infants. True responsibility has to be "outsourced" from the untrustworthy individual to a higher authority. Peculiar at a time when another powerful mantra doing the rounds is one of the empowered consumer capable of constantly rationalising and maximising outcomes. Bit contradictory, no?

            Also, it occurs to me, it's yet another instance of technology having to meditate relationships. We are so screen orientated these days that now cameras and screens are naturally accepted as (according to the author) infiltrating every aspect of life.

            But of course all these contradictions and introductions of more and more technology within our lives still result in the same problems - who makes the judgements? Who decides what's acceptable and what isn't? Who polices it and who polices them? How quickly can such a huge infrastructure adapt to desire changes? etc.etc.

    • Stuart Armstrong

      >If its crime you're worried about can't we just put CCTV in boardrooms and catch the real criminals in action? Simple really.

      I would be in favour of that, though I doubt we could but CCTV's in boardrooms without putting them everywhere.

      In general, I prefer only surveillance of the most powerful, but I'm also convinced that will never happen: mass surveillance is the only way to get that.

      • Lester

        Isn't this just an A-theist version of religion which replaces God with the lense, call it the "eye" if you prefer. A kind of externalisation responsibility in the hope that responsibility will be internalized again?

        You recognize that the powerful need watching but you don't want to consider the real reason they need watching, instead you prefer to accept the economic/political environment and it's powerful encouragement to act against the common goods. You prefer to leave the real illness unattended, but instead tend to the symptoms.

        • Flora

          agreed...interesting analogy

    • stefanstackhouse

      I'll bet those will be the very last places to get them, though. . . and that tells you all you really need to know about this scheme.

      • G

        Yeah really! If the panopticon is so good, let's start by installing it in the boardrooms and banks. For that matter, let's have C-level executives peeing in cups to prove they don't use drugs, and let's broadcast that as well. Funny how "drugs testing" was OK for the forklift operator and the cashier, but not for the person whose finger is on the button of billions of dollars (or Pounds as the case may be). Goose, gander, etc.

  • JGS

    I am sick of the utopia/dystopia polar approach to surveillance and writing about surveillance? It's like we have perfect panopticon harmony on one side and big brother doomsday prophecies on the other. Where's the nuance?

    • Stuart Armstrong

      Are there utopian takes on surveillance? I haven't found any, and this certainly isn't one. I fear that surveillance is inevitable, so we should try and get the most we can out of it. I certainly don't expect utopia!

      • Gyrus

        I think it's more to do with aiming high, because you know you'll hit lower than your aim. This is the practical aspect of "idealism". The argument here is to a large extent saying: "We can't hit the top, so let's aim where we think we can it." And we'll hit even lower than that. This is the dangerous aspect of "realism".

        • Stuart Armstrong

          A valid fear. But I think aiming for "no surveillance" might end up hitting the worst of all worlds: privacy laws that protect the powerful from the rest of us, and are ignored in the other direction. After all, the privacy laws will have to be enforced by the powerful.

          • Gyrus

            Haven't we hit that already?

            I wasn't thinking of no surveillance, just something a bit more combative than "oh well, let's totally cave and find a silver lining or two". Maybe address some underlying causes of threats to social safety.

  • Peter

    I wonder if this would lead to a "dumbening" of society. If, in the first example, people never learn that walking down a dark alley at night is a bad idea, as the surveillance would "protect" them, what other things would they fail to learn? Would people lose their self preservation intelligence? Also, it seems like in addition to losing freedom or choice, people would lose their empathy towards others. If people are taught that "if you commit a crime, you will be caught", rather than, "if you commit a crime, someone else will be hurt", people may cease to think about other people empathetically. Great article, though. I enjoy anything that spurs conversation.

  • Chris Carpenter

    Traditional religions do attempt to instill a sort of total surveillance mentality by positing an omnipresent, omniscient god. Religions succeed in part by creating communities of obedient souls that do as they 'ought' even when no one is watching. In this sense, religions found a clever trick when they discovered how to engineer a surveillance mentality into societies that were bigger than villages.

    • G

      However, shame and guilt are fully operational in diverse cultures that have relatively low levels of religious observance, and these emotions serve as powerful negative feedback on the desire to engage in antisocial behavior.

      We know how to enculturate people to have internalized negative feedback systems, whether in the form of unpleasant emotions such as guilt/shame, or pleasant ones such as pride in civic responsibility. This should certainly be done. And having done so, there is no need for a wasteful economic stimulus program to subsidize the Big Brother industry.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ben.curthoys Ben Curthoys

    The benefits I see come from more sousveillance, not more surveillance.

    I want an always on networked recording device that puts the data where I - not the government - can control it. That works just as well to protect me from crime and dishonesty and police brutality, without being open to data mining.and the speculative dragnets and the false positives that come with blanket surveillance.

    If it's my recording, from a device on my person, I can choose to publish - or delete whichever bits of that data I want - for entertainment, or for evidence, or in my defense.

    • Stuart Armstrong

      >The benefits I see come from more sousveillance, not more surveillance.

      I think sousveillance on its own will be impossible to obtain (and impossible to enforce if obtained). But transparent society - that might work.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ben.curthoys Ben Curthoys

        Well, it's not about enforcement. At least I hope to god it isn't and isn't going to be.

        CCTV cameras now aren't "enforced": the vast majority* of them are ones that private individuals choose to pay for and install on their property, for the many benefits you list. It's not like anyone's making them do it.

        Similarly, I would pay for my own sousvellance device. And I might well leave it switched on in the board room, because I want a record of the conversation, and I might choose to make that recording public if it seemed like I was being stitched up, or if it seemed appropriate to become a whistle-blower.

        Sousveilance - and surveillance - don't need to achieve 100% coverage to be useful, and whilst "what would 100% coverage be like" is an interesting thought experiment, I don't think it's a target to aim for!

        Another example is the phenomenon of Russia dashboard-cams, which are now more or less ubiquitous, as a defense against corrupt police and bogus accident claims. There are so many of them they provided most of the footage** for that meteor that blew up a few months ago. Again, people who choose to install them get the benefits of surveillance you describe - their car is covered 100% of the time, wherever they go - without there being a surveillance network with 100% coverage tracking them.

        The closest thing to your "you wouldn't have to pay for anything at the till, they'd know who you were and what you took and just bill you" example is the London Congestion Charge, which at least proves that such a scheme can work with current technology, as long as everyone agrees to wear a licence plate.

        * http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/mar/02/cctv-cameras-watching-surveillance

        ** http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57569852/russian-dash-cam-video-from-stunning-to-bizarre/

      • MFawful

        Why do you think sousveillance is impossible?

    • Alexander Stanislav

      More difficult but much more promising.

    • closetothetruth

      Sousveillance will work incredibly well, once you develop an algorithm to determine who the "good guys" are in the first place.

      Which you can't, because there are not facts about who the "good guys" and who the "bad guys" are to begin with.

      While there are some limited cases in which it may be helpful (for example forcing police to record the entirety of their patrols, but that isn't really what sousveillance advocates mean), in general, sousveillance just IS surveillance, plain and simple.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ben.curthoys Ben Curthoys

        Isn't it about recording facts, not moral judgements?

        If I have an audio/video/gps log of an event that I decide I want to publish unedited, then the viewers - whoever they may be - get to decide who the "good guys" and the "bad guys" are. I just want a recording of me, that's mine, and that's uploaded off the device to a secure location, and from that I get largely the same safety benefits as blanket surveillance and tracking would give. I can supply radical openness to the bits of the world that are within my field of vision. Even smashing the device doesn't get rid of the photos already uploaded.

        I don't need permissions for this. I need a slightly cheaper 4g mobile data network, slightly better batteries, and to invest a day or two in writing an app that will run on commodity android hardware.

  • D-503

    Yes, let's explore the potential benefits of mass surveillance. Dissenters are swiftly whisked away without annoying protest. We're only exposed to safe, government approved ideas so that we don't get troublesome thoughts in our head. Someone is always looking out for my best interests, so I don't have to worry about the terrible confusion of independent thought, free will, or responsibility. I'm ready for this bold new age of surveillance. Thank you, Stuart Armstrong, for helping me see the light!

  • Stuart Armstrong

    Some ideas as to how the positive aspects could be achieved:

    http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2013/09/how-to-get-positive-surveillance-a-few-ideas/

  • balthasar999

    Interesting. Some of these are certainly worthy goals (crime deterrence & consistency of enforcement, social research, thwarting pandemics, reducing the number of laws), but people also value solitude, independence, privacy, and doing things their own way.

    I hope there would still be surveillance-free spaces such as private homes and that various establishments could opt-out. It has a place in airports, parks, stores, and street corners, but not so much anywhere else, I think.

    In any case, I'm sure it would be messy, and a whole industry of hacking would likely spring up to help people erase their trails, and a lot more people would conduct their business out in rural dead zones.

  • Alan

    I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKbFb6TPVEA

  • Alton Brown

    This has to be the most asinine and poorly researched article on this subject I have ever come across.

    The author purports to be a Fellow at Oxford. He should immediately ask for a refund on any tuition money he has spent in pursuit of his education. Oxford should examine their vetting process to make sure they are employing people with a functioning brain.

    One need only examine crime statistics in England (one of the most heavily monitored societies on earth) to see how erroneous his position. How many crimes has their surveillance been able to prevent? From what I have read, that number is near zero.

    The ability to monitor vast oceans of information in real time is something that exists only in fantasy land. The idea that cameras can prevent crime in real time is ludicrous.

    Planned crimes, crimes of passion, crimes committed by drunk or mentally deranged individuals will not be slowed down in the slightest by any amount of cameras.

    Perhaps the author can stop taking what ever mind altering drugs he is on, do some real research on crime statistics and write another article to put the shame of this one behind him.

  • Flora

    Is lying and hypocrisy so bad then? Is projecting a more "wanted" image of oneself a big crime? To me lots of examples in this article are just far too ideal and some of the reasoning just not that convincing...

  • Sex Bytes

    I have never seen such an inane attempt to convince the sheep that they are better off guarded by the wolf, and that they should see the upside.

  • Osloianer

    Once the panopticon comes in place, the power balance in the society will change forever. Currently, it's still possible to arrange a revolution. This means those in power have a fundamental fear of the people they rule - at least at some level. If they become too greedy, they may find themselves on the receiving end of riots.

    With the panopticon, they can stop being afraid of the people. All they need in order to benefit from their power, is that their own power and wealth continues to grow. This in order to stave off dictatorships in the neighbourhood loooking to expand.

    This is a fundamental, permanent shift in the power balance.

    Furthermore, if there is a coup and the new rulers go all-out in their repression efforts, then it will become impossible to overthrow them. Therefore, a successfull coup will grant complete power - pretty much forever, unless your country is invaded. How's that for an incentive for taking over a nation!

  • Mabel

    You're talking about public surveillance. Which is all fine and dandy--but I don't want a telescreen that can see me a la 1984 in my home. That's MY private area.

  • tesla3090

    You're just naive if you think police brutality and corruption would decrease. If the police and the politicians control the cameras, there is no way they'll turn them on their own. What you want would be a state of total sousveillance, where individuals own the camera and all the data they gain from it.

    Also, copyright wouldn't disappear, it would just be vigorously enforced. It would stifle free speech because everyone would be so afraid of ending up with a ludicrous fine or prison time, they wouldn't create anything not commissioned by the entertainment industry or government.

    Honestly, this article has so many hole I don't know where to begin...

    • Lucas Picador

      Yeah, the lines about police brutality are a laugh. We've already seen how this plays out, even in an age where there is limited sousveillance: police confiscate and destroy cameras and arrest the photographer; press and defence lawyers are denied access to police tapes or the tapes mysteriously disappear. They learned their lesson from Rodney King, and have put in place measures to make sure the cameras are never used against the power of the state again.

      The author really needs to re-read what Bentham and Foucault have to say about the Panopticon: its purpose is not just to subject powerless individuals to surveillance, but also to make the powerful state actors invisible. The whole point is ASYMMETRY of information, and hence asymmetry of power.

  • wwd88888

    What a cringing, subservient position to take. Less crime? Fewer laws? Are you serious?

    History has shown the greatest risk to people is the State: close of 100 million deaths in the 20th century alone.

    The risk of a surveillance state is that it makes every one guilty of something, giving the state complete control. It means the end of free speech, property rights, civil rights, and human rights. Power is always abused, and once unlimited power exists to humiliate and torment others, those who crave that power gravitate to positions that offer it.

  • Tomas Pajaros

    you're talking about the communist dictatorship. It would take so many police to be watching your every move plus more ready to dispatch to you, you are living in a police state. You can have it . . .

  • Guest

    It's not the surveillance (although rebranding it wouldn't hurt), it's the trust in the those constructing it and the people running it.

    Let's say we get to make a computer run EVERYTHING about surveillance, without human interaction other than being notified of possible crimes or events. With a very clear and transparent list on the ways you could get flagged that would have to be voted on. You would be able to see your "profile" and delete or dispute any information contained within. In return, you have access to a lot of information on yourself that could be useful to you. After some time, you could get the option to either delete the information that has been proved to be not relevant or download it / transfer it to a location of your choice. Only files that are flagged / relevant would be locked down.

    If we knew that corruption of the system was not possible because of the human factor, or diminished as low as it could be ... lots of people would not have much of a problem with it.

  • Gyrus

    On 22 July 2005, Jean Charles de Menezes was shot dead by police in London after being mistaken for a terrorist. Police claimed that none of the CCTV cameras at the tube station where he was shot were working at the time due to a "technical problem". However, the company who operated the station said: "We are not aware of any faults on CCTV cameras at that station on that day. Nothing of that nature has been reported to us."

    On 1 April 2009, Ian Tomlinson, a newspaper vendor on his way home from work, passed through a mass protest against the G20 summit. He was subject to an unprovoked assault by a police officer from behind, and crashed to the ground. He died minutes later. The initial postmortem examination said he died of natural causes. After The Guardian published footage shot by an American banker of the assault, the "Independent" Police Complaints Commission began a criminal inquiry. On 9 April, Nick Hardwick, chair of the IPCC, said there were no CCTV images of the assault because there were no CCTV cameras in the area. On 14 April, the Evening Standard wrote that it had discovered at least six CCTV cameras in the area around the assault. After photographs of the cameras were published, the IPCC reversed its position. CCTV footage was eventually shown in the trial of PC Simon Harwood, but despite the unprovoked assault being captured multiple times, Harwood was found not guilty of manslaughter. He was simply sacked for "gross misconduct".

    Power governs things far more than technology does.

  • thecrud

    Until the political party the abuse it come along and we all know it will.

  • x

    So is the main idea "if rape is inevitable, try to enjoy it?"

  • johnlongjohnson

    That is a really terrible article coming from an AI researcher. It shows lack of real world understanding and blind faith to the state.

  • closetothetruth

    even the idea that you are writing this is incredibly frightening.

    the things we lose via total surveillance are huge compared to the miniscule gains we might get. we lose freedom, pure and simple. we lose being human.

    you know what else might eliminate crime? putting everyone in a jail cell 16 hours a day and handcuffing them on their commute to work in a train car. injecting everyone with tranquilizers so no one can take any action, good or bad. putting police in everyone's home to prevent them from any criminal action whatsoever. if you are capable of seeing why those are bad, it is because the ends do not justify the means, and the ends themselves (a "perfect" society based on exactly whose notion of perfection?) aren't unambiguously good.

    in the past, we knew how antithetical all of these ideas were to the most basic sense of human freedom. that people are even suggesting such things today is frightening beyond belief. Look at East Germany. Look at the Stalinist Soviet Union. Look at Mao's China. Those are the kind of total control of people's behavior you are suggesting. They always--ALWAYS--lead to the powerful figures at the top taking every advantage they can of the 99.99% of the population subject to total control.

  • Still Anon

    All I know is having lived in the UK, the US, and Canada, and visited any number of cities including Chicago, Miami, and Oakland....the only place where I have been mugged and assaulted (including random egging) is in the UK. You know, the place with all those CCTV cameras that supposedly deter such violence?

  • Alan_McIntire

    I would accept such a "surveillance state" if we private citizens ALSO had access to the surveillance data/equipment to keep an eye on the President, congressmen, department officials, etc. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

    • Lester

      Kind of, but how are "we" going to police it and enforce it? They've got guns, pepper spray, prisons, in fact. they have an entire industry of enforcement, whilst we have, what, moral righteousness? The vote?

      Seriously this whole idea would be a disaster of epic proportions.

  • http://www.livinginthehereandnow.co.za/ beachcomber

    Watch the TV series "A Person of Interest" which makes this real.

  • Joe Jenson

    A flock of sheep has a ZERO crime rate( if measured by acts perpetrated by fellow sheep). If the author ( or anyone else ) thinks being a sheep is an enjoyable existence, than by all means welcome the total surveillance state, you deserve it.

  • Stephen54321

    "Lying and hypocrisy would become practically impossible, and one could no longer project a false image of oneself."

    That statement, of course, assumes that the AI subroutines which detect such things are not filled with caveats and exemptions to allow select sections of society to continue to lie with impunity and without detection.

    For example, I cannot imagine that the DEA, FBI, or the CIA (or their foreign equivalents) are going to be happy that having the total surveillance state unmask their undercover operatives unmasked by the total surveillance state.

    And something similar might equally be said for such professions as politicians, used car salesmen, and corporate marketing departments who make a living by "spinning" the truth.

    Those in charge of the total surveillance state are much more likely to manipulate the surveillance systems to serve their own ends, much as their predecessors have always done. Such people are the only ones likely to "benefit" from such a state over the longer term.

    "Instead of Mr John Smith typing in ‘passw0rd!!!’ to access his computer or ‘2345’ to access his money, the system could simply track where he was at all times, and grant him access to any computers and money he had the right to."

    Sounds like the NSA's wet dream!

    BTW, that statement implies that it will not be YOU who decides get access to your own house, car, cell phone, or desktop computer. It will be some government-run (or, given present trends, government-outsourced) computing system.

  • perry collins

    yeah, sweet utopian vision, oversight needed for oversight needed for oversight needed for oversight of oversight needed for oversight...

  • Snowden

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  • blogospheroid

    Stuart, There is one more possible benefit you can list. Currently, debt financing is popular because it gives the financier a sure thing in hand. The old saying is one bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush. Society's opportunity cost has been that second bird. With ubiquitous surveillance, equity finance can become much more popular, where the principals can see that the agents they have invested in, were working hard and not goofing off with their money. Equity financing is a much more stable way of finance than debt.

  • CaryWeiner

    I've got my FIRST check total of $550, pretty cool.. You can try it for yourself. b­ℴ­w­6­.­ℭ­o­m

  • http://www.davidbrin.com David Brin (author)

    You might imagine that the author of "The Transparent Society" would agree with this article, but I found it distressing. Yes, I argue that we are heading toward a world awash with light. Every year, the cameras get smaller, faster, cheaper, more mobile... and yes our public servant will grow better able to protect us from many things.

    At the same time, of course, as many point out, we are moving toward the "telescreen" of Orwell's novel "1984". The potential for endless Big Brother tyranny should have been addressed in this article.

    There is an answer: "sousveillance" in which the many... we citizens -- supervise and look back at the watchers. I have no time to go into it. But curious folks could follow this extensive train of thought.

    http://www.scoop.it/t/the-transparent-society

    With cordial regards,

    David Brin
    http://www.davidbrin.com
    blog: http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/
    twitter: https://twitter.com/DavidBrin

  • J Johnson

    Such a positive piece. It reminds me of many old Popular Science articles of a bright future with flying cars and robots that serve our every need.
    The problem with these assumptions is that they depend on a perfectly benevolent government. That's definitely not the case today, and I don't see it ever changing.

    Security cameras aren't going to cover private yachts, ever (How massive of an issue would it be to cover every inch of ocean with camera view?).

    Just think of all the drugs / weapon smuggling that's been covered up by the CIA simply to fund coups or to balance power of cartels against the Zetas in Mexico. When a central authority has all the power to delete the footage, there will still be crime, but the most violent of it will simply not be kept. Further, these central pushes will still be just as clumsy and inept, completely apathetic to regular individuals as they always have been.

    The world can be an extremely dark place. Don't expect some technology to somehow change that.

  • Matt

    There's a lot of problems with this article. I can see what you were trying to do, but I think most of these assumptions are unrealistic. On the bright side, I think it's good to have someone to play devil's advocate to the common position to strengthen arguments.

    First off, as others have pointed out, CCTV has actually not been that effective in deterrence. They certainly aren't effective in deterring the elites from committing crimes, as numerous instances of police "losing" or "not having" footage will attest to. Total surveillance would only entrench the power system further.

    Second, these sentences:
    "Everyday human interactions would be changed in far-reaching ways. Lying
    and hypocrisy would become practically impossible, and one could no
    longer project a false image of oneself. In the realm of personal
    identity, there would be less place for imagination or reinvention, and
    more place for honesty"

    are particularly loathsome to me. It presumes that identity is a singular thing, and everyone should behave as they would in a very public place. But that's just not reality. Would you want the whole world to see how you acted with your friends at 16, your first girlfriend, college drinking parties, or even just joking with a few friends? Nowadays, people go to jail over obvious jokes made online because of zero tolerance policies. Conformity would be rigidly enforced in such a system, and that's abhorrent to me. Our identities are multi-faceted, and that's ok. Your behavior among friends is a different thing than your behavior in court or church, for example.

    Third, you claim that laws would be increasingly relaxed. I doubt it. Again, people in power always have ways to circumvent the system. Even if you're claiming perfect omnipotence of the system, it's a lot easier to get a lighter sentence when you're friends with the judge, or contributed to someone's campaign fund. Protesting to get laws changed would be far more costly as well, making change unlikely.

    Again, I get that this was to brainstorm some counter-ideas to the negatives about surveillance, but it seems like none of these benefits are all that likely, much less worth fundamentally violating the notion of privacy or personal identity.

    • wbw

      Part about identities is spot on, bravo.

  • confettifoot

    And in a world or a historical moment where racism is accepted, friendly interaction between races can be discovered and punished, and worse of course. If women are to be veiled, or silent, or obedient, that can be neatly managed. And so on. The ridiculous article, which is surely tongue in cheek, imagines total surveillance occurring in a perfected society, overseen by perfected persons. In reality, of course, persons most interested in holding power over others would most desire to control the system, and eventually would, and life would be atrocious. We'd be more safe from one another, but utterly vulnerable to the overseers.

    Fun to play with these ideas, but since all vicious tyrannies in history have included intensive surveillance, be careful.

  • Gus

    The hole article strikes me as a good example of how well you can turn an impractical and even inmoral theory, such as "total surveillance"... but what really killed me and forced me out of my reading, was the following claim "continuing the historical trend in conflict reduction since the end of the Second World War."... That was hilarious.

    • Gus

      [sorry] turn an impractical and even inmoral theory, such as "total surveillance" into something almost articulated... but what really...

  • Ingolf Stern

    until we have reliable watchers - NO! We do not have reliable watchers. rather - they are perverts and psychopaths all. sorry - but trust is not extant. please read The Circle by Eggers. Until then - hush.

  • Tom Czerniawski

    So. How much did the NSA pay you to excrete this article?

    • http://dreamflesh.com/ Gyrus

      The dangerous thing about views like this isn't that they're being funded by surveillance agencies. It's that the people holding these views are often genuinely concerned with human welfare, and believe they're working towards that aim.

  • WhatADumbArticle

    Why is it not surprising that someone from Oxford would do a great job of proving why Oxford theorists are marginalized in contemporary thought?

    The other comments have already pointed out why pretty much every idea of substance in this article is just despicable.

  • icon_remedy

    I disagree outright here. This article is based on the assumption that the powers behind surveillance are some kind of elect whose job it is to have a duty of care for the population; a compassionate, humane arm of the government-endorsed information gatherers. If only. Especially ridiculous when freedom of movement and civil liberties are increasingly being cracked down upon as 'criminal'. And this guy is a research fellow?!

  • wakeup

    And who would be in control of all that surveillance? Our very democratic government's representatives?
    In the society we live in, governed by politics put in place by the rich and powerful, a total surveillance would just give them more ease to keep controlling their slaves.

    What we need is a new model of society, a true democracy not this ridiculous oligarchy...

  • sbarnes

    Umm. Minority Report!

  • The Dark Craftsman

    This stance is very questionable for many Western countries, considering that it can go against the grain of the anti-interventionist mentality prevalent in the US legal tradition and the principle of dignity present in the European legal tradition.

    Humans are imperfect, and they don't really get to do 50-50 power.

    Paragraph 7 shows that "mass surveilance would combat all kinds of abuses that currently go unreported because the abuser has power over the abused." In surveillance, you have a power dynamic between the observer implementor and the observed citizen. This problem just worsened.

    "Police officers can, on mere suspicion, detain you, search your person, interrogate you, and sometimes enter your home. They can also arrest you on suspicion of vague ‘crimes’ such as ‘loitering with intent’. Our present police force is given these powers because it needs to be able to investigate. Police officers can’t be expected to know who committed what crime, and when, so they need extra powers to be able to figure this out, and still more special powers to protect themselves while they do so."

    The last 2 paragraphs show something contradicting. How can the OP answer this?